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What was the first concert you attended?
My first concert… it was quite an exciting one. My brother use to go to
these Murray the K shows out in Brooklyn. We were living in Queens, NY
at the time. Murray did one in midtown Manhattan. The Young Rascals were
the headliner but the opening acts were The Who and Cream and that was
unbelievable. I guess that would be circa 1966 and that was quite remarkable.
I was about thirteen years old and if it was not for my brother, I would
have not been hip enough to go see these things.
What kind of kid were you in school?
Actually, I was a good student. I was into the music thing and started
growing out my hair in an afro kind of way. A lot of kids thought if you’re
a hippie that you were not a good student. But I was a good student. I
got along with a lot of my teachers. The only thing that was a hassle
was if there was a teacher’s strike. There use to be crazy strikes like
that a lot back then because they did not want to pay the teachers a decent
salary. I was on the audio visual squad, so I used to get out of some
classes to set up the projector and sound. It’s not I’m an amazing engineer
but I do have a talent for putting things together. It was helpful to
get out of some classes to do something more mechanically oriented like
my music.
As a member of Kiss, what was the feeling when they asked you to join
the band?
I walked in on a very unusual way. I had a very healthy attitude to the
whole thing from the start. I figured hey, if I am only in the band for
two weeks, well that is good on my résumé. Ok if I’m in for two months,
it’s amazing on my résumé. Any longer then that – well, I really didn’t
think at the time I would actually be in the band for twelve years without
the make-up.
They gave Mark St. John as much of a chance that they could and they gave
him that final chance. I knew they are not going to dig this. They were
going to ask me. I had the home team advantage. There I was already six
weeks on the European tour where I was the guitar player. I knew the routine
already. By the time they tried to see if Mark could fit I really had
a big advantage over him. I didn’t have to hope. I would just let it naturally
take its course and that’s what it did. It wasn’t a huge surprise. It
wasn’t like it was a one day audition and they said yeah you’re it. I
can’t tell you I enjoyed getting the gig because I worked at getting the
gig.
Does a new member of Kiss ever become a partner?
Never! That’s the way Gene and Paul always done it. Gene and Paul owned
it even when they had Peter and Ace back in the band for the reunion.
They were paid well but they were not equal partners. Gene and Paul treat
Kiss as a company that they own. You’re paid well enough to be happy if
you got the gig. But if you think you’re going to waltz in and become
an equal member forget it. Vinnie Vincent thought that. Vinnie played
that completely wrong because he wrote songs and thought he was an equal
partner. There were so many perks (which I am still experiencing from
Kiss) - why would you screw that up? He really didn’t get it. That is
not the way a business works.
What does a rider consist of for Bruce Kulick?
Ha ha. I’m pretty simple as I just want spring water and I don’t want
it cold. Everyone tells me “I made it cold just for you - I put it in
the freezer.” But I just want it room temperature please. I’d like some
deli sandwiches with some turkey sandwiches and just simple stuff. I don’t
want lavish things! Just a couple of towels! I would like a dressing room.
I would like a bathroom. I am not of the style of asking for M & M candies
as to make sure there are not brown ones or I won’t perform.
You have played with so many great musicians. Who would you like to play
with that you have not yet?
I always wanted to jam with any of The Beatles. But now I am down to only
two alive. I’ve seen McCartney a few times. He really has an excellent
band right now. I dream about jamming with Paul McCartney and Ringo Star
they are my original heroes. What was your most memorable moment as a
Kiss member?
There are so many highlights. Certainly playing at Donnington with 107
thousand people. Playing Madison Square Garden coming from New York. I
remember seeing Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix there and just playing on
the same stage was incredible. Certainly “Unplugged” even though that
was my last performance with Kiss. We sounded so good and when we played
it really showed the strength of the band. Eric and I were doing that
with Gene and Paul. What a good band we were. The acoustic track “Forever”
was great.
What was the wildest thing that happened to you on stage or tour?
There are many “Spinal Tap” type things that happen in every band. I will
always remember the lights going off and walking into Gene. That wasn’t
fun. There were many times we were led down the stairs to get on the stage
and we didn’t know where we were going. I remember one time we were doing
some interesting pyros that moved around depending on the show. Just by
instinct I remember where this one pyro was and I really wasn’t paying
attention and I moved over here and “poof” that thing went off!! If I
would have stayed there five more seconds I would have caught fire. There
must have been an angel watching me.
Were you working on any projects with Eric Carr before his passing?
I helped him write some material for Rockheads. We also wrote some songs
hoping that it would catch Gene’s eye or Paul’s. Whatever I could use
was on the “Rockology” album. It wasn’t like me and Eric had a side project
or anything. We were busy enough in Kiss. Whenever I worked with Eric
I enjoyed it. I only wish we would have not just channeled everything
for Kiss.
Did you think that Gene and Paul would ask you back after Ace left again?
You have to remember Ace left in a very strange way. I’m real clear about
it. It’s as if Tommy Thayer has been Ace’s understudy since the reunion
tour teaching him the riffs. Tommy did a great Ace in the band Cold Gin
years ago. Not all the Kiss fans are aware that Kiss had situations where
they had to do some things with Tommy. They did not really announce it
during a tour. A TV thing here… a private gig there. There was every intention
for Ace to do it and Ace just didn’t come. With Ace being such a part
of the dysfunctional family being Kiss, I think it really put the pressure
on Gene and Paul to move ahead and figure out what to do. They usually
took the path of less resistance.
I never looked at me not having the opportunity to be Ace in Kiss as a
bad thing. It made sense to have Tommy do this. Like I said, Tommy was
the understudy and obviously at one point it would happen. I know it is
hard for Kiss fans to understand. I know having the original members has
more value for the promoters or at least it has been recently.
The Aerosmith tour was really important and when Ace wouldn’t commit to
that (which is crazy) and they had to move on. That would have been such
a blast to play and hear Aerosmith every night. But that is why Peter
ended back in the band. Ace wouldn’t commit. So Tommy is on guitar and
Peter’s on drums. That is a whole other thing then say, having Eric Singer
playing the drums (who was earlier playing drums in Kiss just prior to
that tour down in Japan and Australia.) But by the time they were going
to Australia to do the symphony tour, Peter didn’t show up so Eric was
now the drummer.
So this past year they just gave up. Peter was useless and not interested
and Ace was lost. So Eric and Tommy replaced Ace and Peter. It has nothing
to do with musical talent or personality thing. It made more sense for
Tommy to do that thing with Kiss. Plus I have a really great gig now playing
in Grand Funk. It’s a terrific band, I love the guys and they pay me well.
What if I was suddenly in Kiss and there is no guarantee and Ace wants
to come back next month? What am I supposed to do? I don’t want to lose
a good gig with Grand Funk. What happens during a month Ace needs some
money and says “hey Gene what’s up this month?” You know they will take
him back right away.
I heard you did the “Star Spangled Banner” at a minor league baseball
game. How did that come about?
Yeah. I actually sang it at major league games too. I did it for the Marlins
down in Florida and I did it for the Expos up in Canada which was really
fun.
What is the biggest difference in playing with Grand Funk compared to
KISS?
It’s very similar. You take a band that has classics hits that have sold
millions of records and that have a lot of fans. The Grand Funk fans are
a little different then Kiss fans. They are still loyal and faithful like
fans are. So you always want to do it your way but get the essence of
the riffs. I think I have the knowledge of how to do that. If you hear
me play “Deuce” I am not ripping off Ace note for note. I do it enough
with my signature riffs. The Grand Funk fans are great and I made a lot
of new fans. They don’t even care that I was in Kiss. I am embracing the
way Mark wrote those songs and I’m doing it my own way.
Tell us what 'Rock n Roll Fantasy Camp' is all about?
It was amazing. I got called by Jack Blades from Night Ranger and he is
the counselor. They have some special guests, artists, speakers that get
paid a lot of money. I think this year it was eight thousand dollars to
attend. You get a week of amazing things. There are no walls and you’re
hanging out with all these counselors like Dickey Betts or Roger Daltrey
who are very approachable. For me, it was an experience that was amazing.
It was hard work because it was long hours but what I ended up doing was
actually getting eight guys and one girl to play a WHO song. It was pretty
rough but we pulled it off. We received the hardest working band award.
It was a lot of fun and I am sure they will ask me back again.
How was the turnout at the Cincinnati Kiss Convention?
Good. There was a freaky kind of storm the night before and a little bit
that day. The weather was not that good. It’s funny because the next day
I was in Stockholm and the weather was gorgeous and in April in Ohio there
were snow flurries. But I got to jam with some of my friends.
What are your feelings about the current line-up for Kiss?
Maybe you mean with Eric and Tommy. My complaints have nothing to do with
Eric and Tommy. It’s just what does Gene and Paul want to do with Kiss
now. I mean, OK, Gene did a solo record and is very ambitious with other
projects that have nothing to do with Kiss and Paul is working on a new
solo album which I know is going to be terrific. I wish him well with
that and but it would not be a surprise if he does not tour with that
lineup although I am sure that will be fun for him. But if they are really
serious to continue Kiss in a creative way, they can all get together
and work on a new album as a band, but it is very hard for those guys.
It is very competitive and they always have the history haunting them
as well as the make-up haunting them. So I can’t put myself in their shoes
to know what it feels like to carry on. I mean, come on - that is nine
years of a reunion. Haha... that's a little weird! It’s like if the money
is there, obviously it’s almost like taking the make-up off would be smarter.
But maybe not…
If you had a chance to wear the make-up, what would you be?
Hey they put Tommy in Ace’s make-up and they put Eric in Peter’s make-up.
I think they are tired of thinking up a new character. I just made a joke
and said ok I will be the Dog!
Do you have more tour dates for the ESP (Eric Singer Project)?
Well you know what’s interesting is that, first, Union has a DVD out that
is doing really well and I am pleased. I booked these dates in January
in Japan and our drummer Bret is in a band called Theory of a Deadman
which is getting a lot of push. So he could not do that. So I asked Eric
Singer if could he help out and do these shows in Japan. So that worked
out really well and the fans loved it. The fans in Japan know Eric from
the times he was in Kiss and touring Japan. Just because Eric played a
few dates with us, fans thought he was the new drummer. He wasn’t and
that got a little annoying. I’ve gone many times to Europe and picked
up a band there and played as a solo artist. I’ve created a good reputation
over there that I wanted to nurture. I told Eric we can go do this I’m
not saying this should be UNION I’m not sure what it should be. But the
more we talked about it the more obvious it was that it should have become
ESP (ERIC SINGER PROJECT). That’s when we announced the six shows as ESP.
It was cool for Eric because this was the first time Eric saw his name
on a marquee as a solo artist. The dates went really well. It was a blast.
I would like to do more with UNION and/or ESP.
If you had three wishes what would they be?
I hate violence. It’s everywhere. I wish that there can be a peaceful
co-existence between all the countries in the world and all the people.
My second wish would be if everyone could have good health. I hear so
many stories about dying of cancer. I experienced it with Eric. I wish
people could just pass away with a natural type death.
My third wish of course is to nurture my ability to play guitar and to
be creative and be successful.
Do you donate to any charities?
Yes. I donate to the Cancer Fund for St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital. I
love animals and I give a donation to the Pet Adoption Fund.
Coming from New York City, what was your feeling during 9-11?
Well I realized that there are some really evil people in the world. I
did know people who were near by. I realized that the world was going
to change now. Our civil liberties to us cannot presume that our neighbor
is not plotting to blow up the world. It’s a horrible feeling.
I use to tour back in the seventies and I use to hear the word terrorism.
But to see it here in America was horrible. There are always going to
be people who hate us. I am proud to be an American but I am not always
proud of what our government decides and does. But that’s part of being
American but I can say that without being persecuted and that’s the beauty
in that.
Certainly the Middle East and the way things have gone on there (which
has been going on for a century) are quite different than us. I’m not
proud of everything we represent meaning a lot of things are based on
greed and money and profit. But a holy war does not make a lot of sense
either.
My parents went though World War Two. How crazy was that? I have friends
who had relatives that were in concentration camps that have the tattooed
numbers on their arms. How insane is that? Just think of the scare we
are going though and fear of the terrorists and wondering what could happen
and there have been some really horrible things that happened in our life
time. It’s part of living.
I am going to mention a few words tell me what comes to mind:
Gene Simmons - Money
Paul Stanley - Creativity
Eric Carr - I see Hershey chocolate bars. He loved Hershey chocolate.
I also think of big hair!
Ace Frehley - Someone who doesn't stand very easily.
Contract - Lawyers
Favorite - Good food
Fun - Laughing at a funny movie
Ego - Bad thing
Touring - hard work but exciting
Would you like to say anything in conclusion?
I want to thank everybody that is supportive of my career.
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